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>> you're making my point. >> i'm conceding that point. i'm agreeing with you. >> this guy is trying to tell us that rahm e-manuel -- >> wait. my point is it wouldn't have. >> i think he is trying to get rahm into this story. who prosecuted scooter libby? who is prosecuting? >> i was going to ask -- >> a former support group. >> this whole thing, his defense seem to be, i was just blue skying about potential deals i could get to sell the president's senate seat. so i might be able to get a job. i might be able to get an ambassadorship. but don't put it in writing. his defense is, he was just bs'ing. at least he is saying, he has
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that in the past if everybody had a wire on them all the time and the fed rout to make a case against you, no one would. >> it is like tony soprano saying, we could take care of him if we wanted to. >> i have to check with my lawyers to see if murder is okay. thank you. from chicago, join us again tomorrow night at 5:00 and 7:00 eastern for more "hardball." "countdown" with keith olbermann starts right now. which of these stories will you be talking about tomorrow? the deep gop divide. and anti-tax rally turns into an obama hate fest. >> we think the muslims are taking over. we do not believe our president is a christian. >> some republican here's embrace the message. others say the party is falling victim to freak and the delusional. >> once this bill passes, i own it. >> president obama with a full
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court press to seal the deal on health care. in so doing, shows he is fainly owning the reality from within the republican party. >> there are those in the republican party who think the best thing to do is just to kill -- >> the financial collapse one year later. the presses tells wall street, no more bailouts. no more reckless behavior. true compass. the book ted kennedy didn't get to see in its finished form hits store shelves today. and as the house goes, so goes kenneth. so goes -- >> one of the best videos of all title. way to go, joe. >> can i call you joe? >> of course. >> okay. >> and wasilla talk earns her another emmy. >> i would like to entertain
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everybody with some fancy pageant walking. >> all that and more on "countdown." >> good evening from washington. i'm david shuster. keith olbermann has the night off. tens of thousands of americans gather here in the nation's capital over the weekend for a rally intended to return the country to the mindset it had on the day after the september 11 attack. a day when according to the website of the 9/12 project, we were not obsessed with red states bloorks states or political parties. we were united as american. now the stated goal anyway. the reality was something different on. saturday, an estimated 50 to 70,000 gathered in washington, not to unite behind the president as this nation did regardless of political affiliation in the wake of the 9/11 attacks, but to unite in apparent hatred of the current president barack obama.
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on 9/12/2001, did the people compare george w. bush to hitler? hitler, len inand fidel castro? did anyone not affiliate with al qaeda threaten the president's life? did they denidrate the president in skin color while calling him a liar? how about a blood sucking alien? or an illegal alien. or the devil. on 9-12-2001 did a pro-life organization in its mass production of signs try to unite the country by using the death of a senator to bury any piece of legislation? not only is it unthinkable to imagine similar signs in the wake of the 9/11 attacks, it is difficult to believe any politician affiliated with a major political party would condone such behavior. not so, the republican party.>b 2009. georgia congressman tom price
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and phil beginningry were in attendance, as was marsha blackburn. and this senator even addressed the crowd. >> ladies and gentlemen, welcome to waterloo where we sink into the past of high tax, sufficient indicating debt and socialism. my friends, i join you today not as a u.s. senator but as a fellow freedom loving american. i'm not here to speak to you, but to stand with you. and to join my voice with yours. it is time that the president and the congress stop lecturing us and start listening to us.
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too many americans have fought and died for our freedom. for us to get it away with apathy and silence. >> in a democracy, isn't that what elections are for? senator demint seems to think more along the lines of a military coup. >> this is a critical battle for the heart and soul of america. and for freedom itself. freedom fighters are outnumbered in congress, but not across america. we are winning this fight and if you continue to stand up and speak out, we will save freedom in america. >> one man's saving freedom is another man's fomenting of hatred. senator demint also claim the attendees were a cross section of america. if by cross section he meant white, whiter and whitest. speaking of, which a reminder of the brain trust who brought us
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saturday' intolerance festival in the first place. >> we weren't told how to behave that day after 9/11. we just knew. it was right. it was the opposite of what we feel today. let us find ourselves and our solutions together again with the nine founding principles and the 12 eternal values. this is the 9-12 project. >> are you ready to be that person that you were? that day? after 9/11 on 9-12? i told you for week you're not alone. i'm turning into a teleevangelist. >> lots to talk about with our own political analyst, howard fineman, senior correspondent for "newsweek" magazine. >> good evening. >> the republicans are not merely condoning the behavior of the fringe element of the party but embracing it. a message of intolerance, that help the republican party how
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exactly? >> well, it doesn't help them. and they're not all embracing it. but i'm sorry to say, they're afraid to say so on the record. i talked to numerous republicans today. a lot of them are very upset that for example, joe wilson, the congressman from south carolina, a lot of them don't think somebody like glen beck is doing the republican party any good. the republicans need not just their core voters to thrive in the 2010 mid-term election, which they indeed may. they need independent voters in the middle. there is a tug-of-war going on, david, between independence to support the issue like the dead and the deficit and the way some of the republicans are behaving that repels those very independents. >> speaking of senator demint will the crowd on saturday and repeated today that the protestors were informed. given what some of those signs had to say about the president, wouldn't that be fomenting
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hatred, if not violence? >> well, at the very least, they're looking the other way and they're looking at the glass of tolerance half full, when in many cases, there isn't even a glass, david. what the republicans i talked to today that was this. these people are there because of big government. they're there because of fears about the debt and the deficit. and i think to some extent that's true. i've been to tea parties. i've been to town hall meetings. but there is something deeper and darker that is also there and we may as well look straight at it. there are racial fear, religious fears, regional fears, he nick fears. these are coming to the surface. like death charges, the politics has brought all this to the surface. that's also what we saw on the mall. there is no question about it and there are not enough republicans who are willing to say that on the record. >> glen beck's stated goal of wanting to move this country back to where it was on 9-12,
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2001, when the country was united, how did that work out for him? >> he can pretend to cry all he wants on the stage and call himself a televangelist. he is not into uniting the country from everything i've seen. he is making a boat load of money dividing the country. when you say with no real evidence whatsoever that the president of the united states hates white people, you aren't behaving in the spirit of 9-12. you're behaving in a spirit that we thought was gotten rid of at the end of the civil war and the end of the second civil rights movement. so he can cry the crocodile tears all he wants. that doesn't seem to be doing what he's doing. >> considering the rally did not unite the country in the same way the country stood together on 9-12-2001, wouldn't this be an exam plaintiff politicizing the 9/11 attack? >> well, i think that's the qua it has ended up.
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they're trying to wrap themselves in the flag that everybody was saluting after 9/11. we're talking about fox to some extent. i know a lot of people there. this is heresy to say on this network, i think roger is a good guy who loves the country and who can be a very, very good news man. some of the things that he's allowing on his network don't do justice to his reputation. and division it is. >> howard fineman, thanks as always. we appreciate it. >> thank you. for more, let's turn to syndicated columnist for the "chicago tribune," clarence page. thank you for your time. >> it seems hard to tell whether this was a recovery rally or the repeal of jim crow. what are these people really protesting? >> well, they seem to be protesting barack obama's election. there was a real shock that went across some parts of the country
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here when obama won. some folks just don't understand it, don't accept it, and never will, quite possibly. it is in those areas of the country where you hear people are more likely to believe barack obama is a muslim. that he wasn't really born in hawaii and all this sort of clap trap. and it is sad. i'm not saying everybody at the rally was like that. it was a very mixed bag and a big rally, you're going to attract a certain number of nut cases. unfortunately, these were the folks wielding those awful signs that you see. a lot of these folks are just plain work a day people who, i thought a poll would show half of them didn't know what socialism was but they know it's not good and they're afraid of it. and this is a way to come together with like-minded people. i actually feel sorry for them that they aren't better informed. >> senator demint said on saturday the protests and the
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anger was not about president obama. but based on the signs alone, demint's analysis doesn't seem to hole up. and secondly, how much do you think bigotry was fueling this? >> well, demint knows how to play it both ways. he is talking about waterloo. this is the man who said we have to stop obama on health care and crush him. what really grabs me is his statement that freedom-loving people are outnumbered in the congress but not across the country. people across the country went out and voted for the people in that congress. this is the way our system works. that to me is just plain demagoguery. i can feel sorry for people out in the crowd who didn't know any better but jim demint know better and so did some of the other people on that podium talking about that. >> these are some of the same folks during the bush administration told everyone on the left that they could love it or leave it. well, they don't seem to be packing up to go now. >> a lot of them are buying more
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bullets. there have been reports of ammunition shortages right after barack obama was elected. i shouldn't be smirking at this but it is just the kind of thing that is sad. but a lot of people have a lot of misjudgments about him, and the rest of the government here in washington. we do have a more polarized situation. it didn't start with obama. it has been going on at least since the willy horton campaign in 1988. and it hasn't turned around. and that's sad. we just have to weather this storm. >> over the weekend, this rally received far more coverage proportionally based on how many people showed up than did the anti-war protests in washington before the invasion of iraq where over a million actually marched. given how divorced from reality so many of the 9/12 tea baggers are, should anyone be taking them seriously? >> well, you have to take them seriously because they are part of the base of the country.
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the base of a party will have a certain number of nut cases. a certain number extremists and a certain number of moderate extremists. but i think they get more coverage because frankly, the right doesn't have strong spokespeople right now. they've lost both houses of congress. they've lost the white house. members of the supreme court don't go out and speak on partisan affairs. so that leaves the world of the blogosphere and tv and talk radio. and as you mentioned, this rally was organize largely by people on fox tv who hoped to rally people out there, i know what some other folks out there. like freedom watch, which is, seem to be a front for lobbyists. but addiction armey and other folks, he is not in elected office anymore. so i think that's a big reason why. we in the media try to be balanced. so you want to fine people on the right to balance off the left. and these are the folks on the
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right, unfortunately, right now. >> clarence page, pulitzer prize winning columnist. thank you very much. coming up, the political problems filling the plate of president obama in the health care fight. big pharma supporting the plan coming from max baucus. a plan without the public option. and the fallout from the bailout. how the politics of the stimulus could affect the enresult in the health care battle. and later, joe wilson's comingal outbursts. was that the spark for a weekend of bad profile behavior? ahead on "countdown." to protect you and your loved ones from the flu. it's also one of the easiest things you can do... because walgreens is now offering seasonal flu shots... every day of the week with convenient hours guaranteed. so you can just stop in. our 16,000 dedicated pharmacists... and take care clinic nurse practitioners... are waiting to help you beat the flu... in neighborhoods nationwide. at walgreens we want you to know, there's a way to stay well.
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in the health care reform battle go, president obama has become more fond of the declare i have the statements lately like this one. "once this bill passes, i own it" in our fourth story, it is becoming more clear, the president will get this bill passed with no republican support if necessary. in an interview on 60 minutes last night, the president expressed no illusions about how health care reform is now tied to his presidency, as well as the current political landscape. >> you're right. so far we haven't gotten much
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cooperation from republicans and i think there are some who see this as a replay of 1993, 1994. young president come in, proposes health care, it crashes and bushes, and then the republicans use that to win back the house in the consequent election. and i think there are some people who are dusting off that play book. in terms of the democratic party, they all understand, we have to make this happen. we're not going to get a better opportunity to solve our health care issues than we have right now. i intend to be president for a while. and once this bill passes, i own it. >> meantime, the cheryl of the only congressional committee that has still not pled its version of the bill says tomorrow could be the day. senator max baucus predicts, there will be much for republicans to like as if that will garner any of their votes. as for whether the final health care bill will include a public option, senator die an feinstein this week joins other democrats who are suggesting the public option is not a deal breaker.
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while the new chairman of the senate health committee, tom harkin, boldly predicts a health bill with a strong public option. senator harkin says a silent majority of americans support it. the most recent poll seems to support senator harkin's assessment. most respondents clearly favoring a public option. yet a majority would also support a bill without it. finally, you may be surprised at what the nation's doctors think of the public option, especially since many opponents say all doctors hate medicare and any other government program. a new poll by the "new england journal of medicine" and the robert wood johnson foundation found 63% of doctors support a public option. an additional 10% support a single payer for 73% for public option or something far stronger. let's call in. the editor-in-chief of the "huffington post." arianna, great to see you.
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>> great to see you too, david. >> is the president preparing the public, assuming it need to be prepared for a health care reform bill with little or no republican support? >> that's how it looks during the interview. that's why it is surprising to hear senator max baucus holding out the promise of perhaps bipartisanship and republican support when the proposal comes up from his committee. and it seems critical that it will not be any republican support. that's why it is a shame that there has been so much time wasted and there has to be so much watered down in the hope of getting bipartisan support. >> another weekend, another set-up mixed signal on the public option. has there been any significant movement on that one way or another? >> well, there has been a little bit of a significant movement, because she basically during the
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week said that well, maybe this is just what the president has been saying, one more way to bring about what we want, which is competition and fair play, and then her press secretary walked it back and said the speaker will fight for the public option. i have a feeling she may fight and then surrender. and i talked today with john conyers, congressman john conyers, part of the african-american, the black caucus in congress and he said both he and the black caucus are very determined that there will be a public option. in the end, the numbers don't seem to be there which is extremely unfortunate. even though the president said it will only affect 5% of the population, it is the key to having some real competition provided to the health insurance industry. >> and as far as some of those
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views in the u.s. senate where the number are a real problem, why don't those democratic lawmaker in the senate pay attention to polls which still show a majority for the public option. they now even have a physicians' poll they can point to. >> this is one of those rare occasions when if they were paying attention to polls, they would have gotten the health care bill passed back in august when they had like 77% support. instead of trying to negotiate really against themselves in the hope of getting a bipartisan bill. now, i think the president is right. the republicans are determined that no matter what the polls say, no matter how much support they lose, that it is politically advantageous for them to give the president and the democrats a big defeat. >> the president has generally gotten support for his plan. does that give him the room he knees to get this thing through in one fashion or another?
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>> well, the support has been more for the president himself. you know, there is this discrepancy between the president's approval rating and the approval rating for his policies and his leadership. and that's really the problem. my concern, david, is that there is a lot of anger and frustration at the moment. but i think it is really a proxy for what is happening in wall street. and today we have that anniversary and what has happened with the bailout. so all these thing even though disconnected legislatively are very much connected in term of the public's attitude toward the president and toward this administration. >> arianna huffington of the "huffington post." we appreciate you coming on. >> thank you so much. sarah palin did not win the vice presidency, but tina fey has won an emmy. the evidence of why the award is much deserved.
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and reaction to the palin resignation. and later, behaving badly isn't just for the congress. it is also at the u.s. open. serena williams' tirade. [ birds squawking ] [ moos ]
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last september after taking home several emmys why are 30 rock, she said she hoped she would soon be finished playing sarah palin on saturday night
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live saying, i want to be done playing her on november 5th. if anyone can help me be done playing her on november favorite, that would be good for me. she got her wishful this week for playing sarah palin, she got another emmy. and saturday's creative arts prime time emmys, they are calling it for best actress in a comedy for stand-up of sarah palin. and her acceptance speech, fey that, "mrs. palin is an inspiration of working mothers everywhere because she bail on her job right before fourth of july weekend. you are living my dream. thank you. >> for a little history lesson going back a year ago, governor palin herself was taking note of fey's act. you may recall this exchange between candidate palin and sean hannity. >> i watched on the way down. i thought it was hilarious. it was hilarious. >> hilarious with the sound down.
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she must love charlie chaplain. as a public service to the exgovernor who we know watches, an encore of the best of sarah palin. >> every morning when alaskans wake up, one of the first things they do is look outside to see if there are any russians hanging around. if there are, you've got to go up to them and ask, what are you doing here? if they can give you a good reason, it is our responsibility to say, shoo, get back over there. >> you can compare your road to the white house to my road to the white house. i scratched and clawed through mud and barbed wire. you just glided in on a dog sled. >> i would now like the give each of you a chance to make a closing statement. >> are we not doing the talent portion? i would like to entertain everybody with some fancy
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today is the one-year anniversary of an event that may have ultimately help to elect barack obama but it almost certainly saddled him with the kind of mess no president would ever choose to have. in our third story on the "countdown," the president has a lot to fix or else risk everything else on his agenda. president obama came to wall street today to make his case for stricter financial regulations.
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one year after the collapse of lehman brothers and the subsequent financial bailout. the president tried to strike a theme of never again. >> i want everybody here to hear my words. we will not go back to the days of reckless behavior and unchecked excess that was at the heart of this crisis. where too many were motivated only by the appetite for quick kills and bloated bonuses. those on wall street cannot resume taking risks without regard for consequences. and expect that next time american taxpayers will be there to break their fall. >> and even though the massive financial bailout began under the bush administration, the obama administration is just now beginning to talk about unwinding the government's involvement in that industry. none of it is very easy and much of it, the knee-jerk disdain for voters. while to house committee chair barney frank expects it to be
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voted on by november, such timing may be tricky at best. since health care reform is still president obama's top priority. of course, the president once joked the only thing less popular than the banking bailout was the auto industry bailout. and yet new regulations for the financial sector are expected to get tough opposition. especially from republicans. let's bring in the washington editor of the week magazine and political columnist with bloomberg news. margaret carlson. good to see you. >> good to see you, david. >> is one of the problems with this issue regulation of the financial industry that it does not easily grab public attention, even though it is incredibly important? >> i think it does grab public attention. but when you get in there, the public throws up its hands and can't figure it out. when you hear about the bonuses, when the banks are getting bailed out but people are not getting bail out and their houses aren't getting -- they aren't getting help with their
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foreclosures, people are furious about that. even more so than things that happened to them in health care. but you're told, it is too complicated. you just don't understand why we can't bail out homeowners. we can only bail out the banks or you don't understand why goldman sachs is thriving with your taxpayer money. i think it is a sense of helplessness that keeps the public from doing more. >> what happens under this scenario? these new regulations reach the house and senate floor and therefore reach maximum exposure at the same time that health care is going through its final push. is congress really capable of doing two big things at once? >> david, you're tempting me here. let's go at it this way. the congress is supposed to contain our best and brightest. we elect these people because they are educated, intelligent, they know public policy. of course they can do two things at the same time. the people who complain that it
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is too much are the people who have never been in favor of either health care reform or financial reform. so they're looking for an excuse. it is not as if they couldn't get it done. by the way, they've had months and months to look at the health care bills on the hill. there is going to be no surprises if you wanted to actually read the bills. the financial regulations are a little bit harder to follow. as i said before. even for members of congress, even for lawyers, some of that is hard to follow. but you know which side to be on. i'm afraid that what we've got here, david, is not only are banks too big to fail. they may be too big to regulate for our congress. >> why is it that some of the same politicians and those in the public who are angry about what wall street did to this economy are also opposed to greater oversight? >> well, these interests are the most powerful interests in the united states.
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the financial industry. i mean, they have tens of millions of million of dollars to give. some of them are on the ropes. they're still spending huge sum on lobbyists. it is not as if they don't have ready cash and they're the biggest givers to campaigns. members of congress don't want off the to take a vote against these industries. any more than they want to vote against the health insurance industry or hospital. they are much more powerful as an sbi than any industry than you or me, what happens when an insurance company turn you down or what that when your house is being foreclosed but the bank that did it is getting federal money. >> when the president spoke today, he was warmly, lightly receive. his speech was interrupted by applause only once.
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they're not too keen on what the president proposes. will they in fact fight it? >> well, you know how when you see the tech of a speech, you see sometimes the breaks for applause? no breaks for applause in this speech. it was exactly the time that was allotted to it. i don't know what -- something will have to happen. even some of the banks probably don't want to get where they were before. if you touch a hot stove, you don't go near it again but it is shocking to find out some of the new instruments that are being developed by the very same people that had to be rescued for the crazy instruments like the credit default swaps that they were putting out there. some e-mail came out when s&p was saying, we would rate a deal structured by a cow. and in the e-mails, they referred to what they were selling as vomit. i mean, they knew it was bad and they did it.
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so we'll have to see if there is anything that can control this urge to take these kinds of risks. >> margaret carlson from bloomberg news. thanks as always. we appreciate it. >> thanks, david. as ted kennedy' memoirs hit book stores, hear the senator in his own words talk about the importance of getting the book right. what has gone wrong with civility? first the president gets interrupted. now during the video music awards, kanye west accepts an acceptance speech to say the wrong person won. and when rachel joins me at the top of the hour, the deviant behavior inside the american embassy. access to favorite courses chef's meal with pommes frites perhaps a night at the theater with extra special seats
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they have confirm the death of the actor. he was reportedly at home after having left a los angeles hospital in late august. swayze cause diagnosed with cancer in january of last year but he continued to work on a television series, and he privately fought his illness, even as public rumor circulated that he had already succumbed. he is probably best known as the star of dirty dancing. the iconic film from the 1980s in which he played dance teacher johnny castle. and in 1990s ghostering found himself with another monster hit. his career began when he played prince charming for disney on parade and it included turn on broadway in both grease and chicago. most recently, he was co-writing a memoir with his wife of 34 years. patrick swayze was 57 years old. a lot of fortune 500 companies use him. but-- i'm your only employee. we're gonna start using fedex to ship globally-- that means billions of potential customers. we're gonna be huge.
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it's a chronicle of a man's life's work. his old sons have called it revelation. our number two story on the "countdown," the late senator ted kennedy's memoir. it hits stores today. he started working on it before his cancer diagnosis. copies of the book arrived at kennedy's home in hyannis port the day he died. our correspondent is andrea mitchell. >> in true compass, he reveemz his lifetime. from the privileged youth as a
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child to the burden of being the only surviving son. he was reflective talking to his publisher last february. >> sometime in your life, you have to recognize that there is an extraordinary opportunity to put down some thoughts that you have that are relevant to your service in the united states senate. that's what i've tried to do. >> his memorial is a fascinating account of his childhood, including some tough lessons from his father. >> i had a sit-down with my dad. he said i just want you to know, i have other children that are out there that intend to have a purposeful and constructive life. so you have to make up your mind about which direction you're going to go. >> what emerges in the book is how scarred he was by his brother's assassination. first jack. and then bobby. >> those of us who loved him and -- >> he writes how he feared he, too, would be shot. flinching at 21-gun salutes at arlington cemetery.
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recoiling when a car back fired, recalled the former aide. >> he did a magnificent job of containing the anxiety that had to be part of that. i never saw him sweating. i saw him drop to the ground like a stone when there was a loud bang. i saw him tell me to take a boom box away when he thought it was ticking like a bomb. but i never saw him sweat. >> as he has written, it is why after losing the nomination to jimmy carter in 1980, he granted his children's wish not to run again for president. in the end, ted kennedy passed the torch of his legacy to his family and to a new young president. >> what we face, he wrote, is above all a moral issue. at stake are not just the details of policy, but fundamental principles of social justice. and the character of our country. >> coming up, a lot of people are questioning what happened to serena's compass at the u.s. open. her tirade was part of a bizarre
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what started with one congressman's rude attack ended on a stage invasion. the air of public outburst is upon us. we now join in progress. first up, serena williams. at the u.s. semifinals, battling kim clijsters, early in the mast williams threw a tennis match. then one point away, they called a point on her and that's when miss williams went off.
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>> [ bleep ] >> i didn't say i would kill you. are you serious? are you serious? i didn't say that. >> the tournament referee awarded a penalty point to clijsters, giving they are match. they fined miss william $10,000 for the meltdown and an additional $500 for racket abuse. she may face more penalties including suspension from next year's open. williams issuing this apology. hey, guys, i want to sincerely apologize. the tennis fan everywhere, for inappropriate outbursts. i'm a woman of great pride and i admit when i'm wrong. the wilson style rage continues, this time at the mtv's video music award.
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the category best female video. the moon manhunt went to 19-year-old country phenom taylor swift. but not if kanye west can help it. >> thank you. thank you so much for giving me a chance to win a vma award. >> i'm really happy for you. i'm going to let you finish. but beyonce had one of the best videos of all time. one of the best videos of all time. >> kanye's lobbying for beyonce proved pathetic. yet not quite prophetic. as she later won video of the year, and invited miss swift to come up and speak. kanye issuing an all caps apology on his blog last night. the sort of mea culpa that it
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caused his website to crash. the second apology was today. i feel like ben stiller's neat parents when he messed up everything and robert deniro's asked him to leave. joining me now, christian, good evening. >> hello, david. >> kanye issued an apology for his apology? specifically, one to robert deniro? >> yeah. i heard robert deniro just got rid of all his kanye ring tones. i find that meet the parents metaphor tricky. if you remember, in the movie ben stiller is a really nice guy. in his effort to be liked, things keep going wrong over and order and over again. whereas kanye west is a doosh. thing are a little different. >> now there is the outrage over kanye's outrage. it is fascinating how much i don't like you. i like everyone. kanye just take some of the heat off joe wilson and serena williams, for that matter?
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>> you have to admire how relentlessly kanye goes after it. it is really lex lutheresque. kanye west stumbles upon a time machine and travels through history interrupting famous speeches. the emancipation proclamation, the gettysburg address, here's the time. quantum creep. >> kanye will be on the premier of the jay leno show tonight. does this make him the new hugh grant? >> i guess. you have to wait and see what he's going to say. i mean, i don't know what to expect. but i would say that somebody will have their finger hovering over the [ bleep ] button at any moment. you can probably expect that. >> turning toer is each a williams, are, to serena william. she never said she would kill anyone. just shove a ball down their throat. >> who could possibly be physically threatened by serena williams? she is such a shirking